Homocon

I'm gay, and a paleo-conservative, and I'm not for continuing an endless war in the Mideast indefinately. Nor am I a mindless devotee of free market fundamentalism that seems to have taken over the Republican Party. I don't it's appropriate that you gloat over his potential loss of his senate seat. Unlike most of the Democrats, Byrd has been a sincere critic of the neo-con's incitement of this country to a needless war from the beginning. He's not like Hillary or Biden or Kerry who flip-flopped around, and nitpick at Bush over problems coming out of Iraq, when they were too cowardly to oppose it when they should have. I don't think Byrd's troubles are any cause for rejoice, as he's been consistent in opposition to Iraq from the beginning...joining CONSERVATIVES like Pat Buchanan and Robert Novak who also opposed Bush2's invasion of Iraq, for many of the same reasons---I might add.
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Homocon sez:
Your lack of imagination (read: nihilism) regarding the West's future relationship with the Middle East (or maybe it's just a condescending nihilism regarding the Middle East in general) isn't the only thing wrong with your self-described dinosaur-era conservatism. Declaring the war in the Middle East as "needless" is your personal option, of course, but you hardly have the last word regarding the implementation of foreign policy (thank god), and a more modern conservative like me will only laugh in your face should you continue to hoist aloft names like Pat Buchanan and Robert Novak as shining examples of real conservatives in action.

Pat Buchanan and Robert Novak? (rolls eyes)

No wonder you're defending an octogenarian political grandstander like Robert Byrd -- your political mentors are all creaking joints and intellectual Geratol, adhering to such outmoded notions as a national interest that can be parsed geographically, a strong manufacturing base as a viable economic foundation in a technologically driven century, and a withdrawal of all ground forces from Europe and Asia, as if now that the Cold War is over it's all peace, love and understanding, baby.

Wait -- you *do* know that the Cold War is over . . . right? Because it was the mindless devotees of free market fundamentalism that won it, and I'm thinking that perhaps you missed that fact.

***ADDENDUM TO THE ABOVE: Unfortunately, "David" won't be joining us anymore. He's left, at last count, 4 increasingly emotional and outraged responses at having his "paleo-conservative" philosophies belittled by the likes of a johnny-come-lately conservative like me, and has now stated that he feels nothing but "contempt" for the views expressed on this site, that he's convinced I hate America (I know, perhaps it's a temporary insanity?) and that he's removed me from his blog list (gasp!). So join me in wishing "David" (and his admiration for Pat Buchanan . . . *giggle*) a fond fare thee well, and a get-over-yourself soon.

Now, back to our scheduled programming.

The people of West Virginia are a lot more conservative than the radical leftists Byrd is running with these days, and the Klan Konnection is an increasing source of embarrassment.

The idea that Grand Kleagle Byrd ever does anything out of principle is a laugh and a half. As a senator, he's a joke, renowned primarily for pork barrel spending and managing to get everything in West Virginia named after him.

As I watched on the news, Byrd's comments about how he praised President Bush for consulting with Senators regarding his SCOTUS nominee, I wondered who was pulling the strings from above.

Your assessment is dead-on! Byrd has always been a fish out of water, and constantly needs to shift into line, to appease both his colleagues, and his constituents back home. Here is a guy who was openly racist (KKK), now serving in the self-proclaimed only party that cares about Black America. Furthermore, he speaks out against terrorism, yet he knows first hand how to conduct religious fundamentalist acts against an undeserving people. Perhaps if West Virginia had a larger Black population (3.2%), Byrd would never have been elected in the first place.

As for the previous comment about how you are gloating over Byrd's potential loss of his senate seat, let's remember Tom Daschle. Shortly after he lost HIS seat, Sen. Chuck Schumer appeared on the Daily Show. He said that it just goes to show you what's wrong with America when a man like Tom Daschle loses his seat. I happen to believe, and I would imagine most Americans agree, that this is exactly what is RIGHT with America. When you don't like how an elected official is representing you, you un-elect them. Daschle found out the hard way that nobody likes a whiner. Perhaps "Dave" will learn that someday as well.

Random Thought: What's worse for society? An openly gay elected official or a former member of the KKK?

I thought I might link you to the the New Iraqi Constitution, so you can understand what WE ARE really fighting for in Iraq. You comment about the Free Market Fundamentalism winning the COLD WAR is somewhat hilarious given the fact that the US is selling it's economic soverignty to the CHINESE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT to finance the our little misadventure in the Mideast. Also your dismissal of Pat Buchanan or Robert Novak, as "dinasours" is a little hypocritical since YOUR heros seem to be Paul Wolfowitz, Alan Greenspan, and Charles Krauthamner. Hey man, I like your blog, and I read it every week, but respectfully, you are WRONG about this endless WAR against the MIDEAST!

SEE: http://www.carnegieendowment.org/files/BillofRights.pdf EXCERPT: "The state shall take responsibility for combating moral and behavioral depravity and encourage people and agencies to spread virtue, providing it help and support. The state shall ensure harmony between the duties of woman toward her family and her work in the society and equality with men in the fields of political, social, and economic life without conflicting with or disturbing the provisions of the Islamic shari'a."

HOmoCon: "...adhering to such outmoded notions as a national interest that can be parsed geographically, a strong manufacturing base as a viable economic foundation in a technologically driven century..."

Sorry honey, but the US doesn't have a TECHNOLOGICAL base, shees..all those little techno-gadgets like your cell phone, your PDA and your Computer are all things that that we didn't develop and can't make, outsourced to contract manufacturers who develop and build it in China. Intel, IBM, Maytag, and most every large American Corporation reinventing themselves as CHINESE companies is hardly an event that inspires much patriotic spirit in me.

If the US dollar falls, so does the house of cards that Alan Greenspan built for us. One last comment...it's ironic you think my "dinasour" brand of conservativism is so outmoded to a "modern" thinker like you, but Alan Greenspan, Paul Wolfowitz, Charles Krauthamner are hardly "modern"---and it's arguable if they are "conservative." Scoop Jackson Democrats is what the neo-cons are, dearie. As for Alan Greenspan, well, the "Cult of Ayn Rand" is hardly conservative. With all due respect, you need to read a up on what conservativism was all about, before you hoist your "HOMOCON" banner. I sure about the HOMO-part, but you don't even understand what 'conservative' means.

Spamchaser sed: "Declaring the war in the Middle East as "needless" is your personal option, of course, but you hardly have the last word regarding the implementation of foreign policy (thank god), and a more modern conservative like me will only laugh in your face should you continue to hoist aloft names like Pat Buchanan and Robert Novak as shining examples of real conservatives in action." Well, Bush2 barely won re-election by 2%---a pathetic figure for a war president. Go ahead, alienate and insult the paleo-conservatives, Spamhead. You'll see how many elections you neo-cons win if we decide to sit out the election. We're the BASE...you'd better show more respect.

My admireation of your column has turned to contempt over your positions on the war, and your denigration of conservatives like me. See how far you get winning elections without the 'dinasours" you think are so funny. That you consider yourself a "modern" conservative is such a joke...you're an "OLD" Liberal, but you're too ignorant and unread to understand this. That you're a SPAM jocky and make your living from the GOVERNMENT developed and subsidized INTERNET says a lot about why you hold the views you do. Sorry, but it's "Modern Conservatives" like YOU who hate America, as much as the liberals and leftists. You're off my blog list for your snide, and ignorant remarks.

I'm Jewish, but I really admire Hitler. Can you show me how to start a web site?
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Homocon sez:
Such cutting-edge satire, and a Hitler reference to boot! Why, you *should* have your own website, or better yet, just start a daily diary at Kos like all the other kids who ride the political short-bus.

Good luck!

Byrd has been buying the votes of the people of West Virginia for years. He's passed more pork than a guy with a hangover the day after a big barbeque. Politically and philosophically he's at odds with everyone in his state, but they'll keep on sending him back to DC until he drops dead because West Virginia is very conservative, mostly in the "hates and fears change" kind of way.

By the way, I've just discovered your blog and I like it a lot. I've added you to my blogroll, so maybe that'll make up for being dropped by "David" above. I'm glad I found the blog, I'll be a regular reader from here on out... just one thing, though: you ain't one of them, err, uh, gays, 'ar ye? ;)

"Homocon sez:
Such cutting-edge satire, and a Hitler reference to boot! Why, you *should* have your own website, or better yet, just start a daily diary at Kos like all the other kids who ride the political short-bus.

Good luck!"

Political short bus, I'll have to remember that *snicker*...

Oh great, another example of "What HOMOCON is (having other people) die for in Iraq!" See Islam Likely Main Basis for Iraqi Law By LEE KEATH, Associated Press Writer
Sat Jul 30, Yahoo News. Looks like Iraqi "Democracy" is going to be determined by the Mullahs in IRAN. You neo-cons are worse then the Liberals---you don't care any more about America then Stalin cared about Russia. You're a TRAITOR..pure and simple.
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Homocon sez:

He's baaaaaaaack!

And here I thought David had flounced off in a huff, never to be seen or heard from again (I should be so lucky). But folks, let me tell ya, his blood is boiling, his ire is self-righteous and he's out to expose me to the world for the "traitor" he thinks I am (and to throw in a Stalin reference as well . . . oh well, at least it wasn't Hitler).

Note to David: The Iraqi constitution was never going to look and sound just like America's, as a constitution needs to reflect the people and culture it's written for (a point which seems to elude you), but constitutions can be amended as a society changes. Look at ours.

However, your inability to see the Iraqi constitution as amendable, or the Iraqi culture as capable of social and political growth as it moves towards a future it didn't used to have, is just another example of your nihilism regarding the "not like me" world around you (and a direct result of the backwards isolationist ideals of your paleo-pals like Pat Buchanan). Pure and simple.

Pat Buchanan . . . *sigh*

So tell me again, why is it wrong for a Democrat to support Roberts for the SCOTUS?

I guess I'm wrong then.